Oh man. I wish you all the best and plenty of strength 💗
Alex Bogdanov
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Random Musing of an ex-JW between a rock and a hard place.
by StarTrekAngel inmany of you may recall pass postings of mine where i mentioned my plans of moving away from my current neighborhood.
mainly because my office got moved and now my commute is about one hour each way.
my employer is pretty flexible so showing up on time, for now, is not an issue.
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Material such as the film at the end of this years convention confirms that I was right to take my kids out the religion
by jambon1 init’s quite affirming to see the horrific material that they’re serving up at the convention this year.
aside from blatant homophobia, the scenes at the end of the convention that are discussed on another thread stoop to new levels of fear mongering.
it seems to occur to nobody inside the organisation that this kind of material could trigger fear, deprsssion, anxiety, stress.
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Alex Bogdanov
Slimboyfat. I think they wouldn't defend the video. Because for them it is real. That is their life! A few weeks ago in Indonesia parents blew themselves up with their children. Do you think their were up for a debate? I don't think so. They were fully convinced that what ever they will do is good for their children. Same with JWs they are fully convinced that GB is concerned about their children so no matter what GB produces in JWs its beneficial for their children. Do I think that JW are radical Christians? Yes, JWs are a radical Christian faith.
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Random Musing of an ex-JW between a rock and a hard place.
by StarTrekAngel inmany of you may recall pass postings of mine where i mentioned my plans of moving away from my current neighborhood.
mainly because my office got moved and now my commute is about one hour each way.
my employer is pretty flexible so showing up on time, for now, is not an issue.
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Alex Bogdanov
I wish you luck. You are in a very difficult situation. Cant really give you an advice. But maybe your wife can go to the meetings a few times just to please your MIL and stop asap. Me and my wife did it. We didn't want to shock the family so we were going to the meeting 4 times a month, 3 times a month, 2 times a month, 1 time a month until we fully stopped. It was very difficult, because every meeting was like a torture, but it worked. When we stopped going to the meetings nobody was surprised. So your wife can go a few times and when you will setle in the new house she can stop. I doubt that your MIL will go crazy and decide to move out. If she is that crazy then I pray for you
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Material such as the film at the end of this years convention confirms that I was right to take my kids out the religion
by jambon1 init’s quite affirming to see the horrific material that they’re serving up at the convention this year.
aside from blatant homophobia, the scenes at the end of the convention that are discussed on another thread stoop to new levels of fear mongering.
it seems to occur to nobody inside the organisation that this kind of material could trigger fear, deprsssion, anxiety, stress.
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Alex Bogdanov
One of the BIG reasons why me and my wife stopped going to the meetings it is because of our son and the future baby. As soon as our son was born we made the decision to stop seeing so called brothers and sisters. Before we used to go to the meetings once a month. But we decided that our son has to be away from the crazy ideas that GB is spreading. The Organisation is very homophobic. I know a couple of JWs who hate their guts. I have no idea why. I was JW for a very long time and never had problems with LGBT community. Now JWs hate me even more because in my book that was recently published one of the characters is thinking about his sexuality and another character is an ex-JW.
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The emotionally manipulative techniques JW families use.
by stuckinarut2 ini am really disturbed by some methods that jw family members try and use to emotionally manipulate us back into the organization.. one of our fellow posters here has had a family member send several photos of them as a child either out witnessing, and at an assembly.. no words - just those pictures.. it seems such an infantile and manipulative technique to employ?!.
do they think that we will all simply ignore the logical and factual reasons we no longer attend, just because we see some sentimental picture?
do they not see that this actually may reinforce our understanding that we were raised as children in a high-control religious group where we had to please our parents.
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Alex Bogdanov
A true family will love you no matter what and will never leave you. The majority of JWs don't have loving families. As only horrible person won't talk to a parent or a child depending on their religious views. I only wish a lot of courage to people who can't leave the Organisation because they know their family will turn their back on them. I know a couple of people myself who are trapped. I hope these people will become brave and not to be afraid to make the step. Bevause if their family truly loves them they won't stop interacting.
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Receiving so much hate recently....
by stuckinarut2 inwell, as you all know, my wife (unstuck) and i are not df or da.. we just stopped attending several years back after my "apostate" online activity was found by a nosey employee of ours while she was working in our office (long story if anyone wants to know - it would have to be another thread).
we never met with any elders - no congregation judicial activity occurred (as we would never consent to do so anyway).
so our policy has been to be the same kind, loving, normal people we have always been.
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Alex Bogdanov
Dont worry Stuckinarut2. I personally find it funny how my decision made JWs angry. Think about how sad is their life if someone like me or you are leaving. We can't change anything, we can't affect minds of millions people, but JWs take it as an insult. I only laugh because it is crazy that some JWs mood depends on what I think about the GB 😂😂😂
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It is hilarious how GB say they don't need money as God is on their side. But when they have shortage of money it seems God doesn't support their ministry work. I am originally from Latvia and when I became a JW they were teaching that God is doing their work, not the money. But when in 2008 the global economic crises happened and people in Latvia couldn't donate as usual the GB decided that the ministry in Latvia is not important. They sold the Bethel building in the capital's centre. Got rid of the staff. Send a few brothers to Finland's Bethel to translate and make literature and opened a small office in Latvia with a few brothers. So from many people who worked for the Bethel only a few left. As well Latvia had nearly 100 missionaries and special pioneers all together. How I know not more than 10 left. So the BIG and IMPORTANT work that is directed by God fully depends on cash. The GB are a joke 🤣🤣
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Certificate Of Destruction--by request!
by Atlantis inin your message, you wanted to know what the "certificate ofdestruction" used by the watchtower records department looks like.
(as soon as atlantis gets a copy i'll send it to you.
)please view this leaked video and go to 33 minutes of the video.
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Alex Bogdanov
Thank you Atlantis 👍
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Mother is terrified over talks of peace.
by Searching injust spoke with my mother about the summit for north and south korea, her face turned a ghastly pale and she refused to talk to me about it afterwards.
i know exactly what is on her mind, and i'm not sure if i can say or do anything to assuage her fears about this being a fulfillment of prophecy.
any suggestions on what i could perhaps tell her to try and steer her from her line of thinking?
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Alex Bogdanov
Remind your mum about when USSR collapsed. The day when Americans and Russians thought they will leave in peace. The day when communist regimes where falling a part and all world was turning into one big family. The day when many witnesses thought Jehova himself destroyed USSR as no one on the planet could have guessed that, even Americans. The day when many witnesses thought that JW work will be allowed not only in Russia, but in China etc. So what do we have now? USA and Russia continue to fight. All world didn't became one family and countries continue to hate each other. JW dreams of whitnessing in China fully collapsed. But GB doesn't care about 1 billion people! that didn't get the good news and the Armagedon will come despite of that. GB are total losers in their prophecies all of their crap isn't happening but the Armagedon is coming. Vile people
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Wealth, Poverty, and Morality
by SecondRateMind ini am interested in the approach this forum takes to money.
apart from sex, (which i am quite relaxed about) it seems to me that wealth is the surest divider between those who are moral, and those who are not.. it seems jesus thought so, also.
luke 16:19-31 kjv describes well enough his dusty attitude to the rich who do not succour the poor.. and this world has many poor: so many, it might seem that we can do nothing about it, and twist his words; 'the poor ye shall have always with you, but me, ye shall not have always.
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Alex Bogdanov
You raise a very difficult question. Many philosophers thought about it. Taking money from the rich and giving it to the poor wont solve the problem for a long time. What are the problems we as people can't solve?
1. Human nature. Laziness. There are a lot of people who are lazy. Rich or poor. But to live in an equal world everyone has to give their energy and time.
2. You would have to move people from areas that dont produce anything. A farmer from South Carolina will produce five times more than a farmer from Siberia. Hence American farmer is already richer by doing the same work.
3. How much money will you give to artists and scientists? The experience of USSR shows that when people don't get big money for their developments they stop to create. In USSR a scientist would get 500 rubles, but a builder 300 rubles. One of the reasons USSR collapsed is because the country stopped producing innovation. The reason is people lost creativity as there was nothing that would stimulate them.
4. We love freedom. What will you do with people who want 10 children? It is obvious that they won't be able to educate all of them, but that is their choice. Will you stop freedom.
I think you need to read books on communism. Communists themselves came to a conclusion that at the moment we can't create equal world. Maybe later when we will use robots for manual work. But that is still maybe